Econometrics vs Climate Science

Recently, a number of papers have surfaced that use advanced statistical methods to analyze climate data. The techniques involved have been developed not by climate scientists but by economists and social scientists. These new tools belong to the field of econometrics. The use of statistical break tests and polynomial cointegration to analyze the relationships between time series data for greenhouse gas concentrations, insolation, aerosol levels and temperature have shown that these data are non-stationary. The implication of these findings is that much of the statistical analysis applied by climate scientists is flawed and potentially misleading. So strong is the statistical evidence that a couple of economists are claiming to have refuted the theory of anthropogenic global warming. This, on top of everything else that has recently transpired, may indicate that a climate change paradigm shift is imminent.

The source of most climate predictions are general circulation models (GCM) that attempt to computationally simulate the physical processes found in nature. But GCM are not the only way to model the behavior of Earth's climate system. I have previously commented on the use of the Chow test in time series analysis to test for the presence of a structural break. This statistical model predicts no temperature rise until 2050 and only a slight increase of 0.2°C between 2050 and 2100. Those interested can read “Stat Model Predicts Flat Temperatures Through 2050” or, for the more mathematically adventuresome, the paper by David R.B. Stockwell and Anthony Cox, “Structural break models of climatic regime-shifts: claims and forecasts.”

The world suffers from no shortage of future climate predictions so the addition of one more really did not cause much of a ripple in climate change circles. But now, a new paper that mounts a direct assault on the theory of anthropogenic global warming has emerged. The most controversial aspect of this new work is that its methodology comes, not from climate science or a related field, but from econometrics.

Polynomial Cointegration

Two statisticians have stirred up a hornet's nest on the internet with the release of a draft of an unpublished paper claiming to refute the theory of anthropogenic global warming. In it, Michael Beenstock and Yaniv Reingewertz, both from the Department of Economics at Hebrew University, Israel, have applied econometric statistical methods designed for non-stationary time series to test AGW. Their claim is based on the assertion that, if atmospheric CO2 levels drive temperature change, time series data for CO2 and temperature will exhibit statistical correlation linking the two. No correlation, no link between carbon dioxide and climate change.

[T]he methodology of polynomial cointegration is used to test AGW when global temperature and solar irradiance are stationary in 1st differences, whereas greenhouse gas forcings (CO2, CH4 and N2O) are stationary in 2nd differences. We show that although greenhouse gas forcings share a common stochastic trend, this trend is empirically independent of the stochastic trend in temperature and solar irradiance. Therefore, greenhouse gas forcings, global temperature and solar irradiance are not polynomially cointegrated, and AGW is refuted. Although we reject AGW, we find that greenhouse gas forcings have a temporary effect on global temperature. Because the greenhouse effect is temporary rather than permanent, predictions of significant global warming in the 21st century by IPCC are not supported by the data.

To understand why this is such a big deal, statistically speaking, we need to look into the properties of time series data. In statistics, a time series is a sequence of data points, measured typically at successive times spaced at uniform time intervals. In other words, a collection of historical measurements. Examples would be a history of the daily stock market closing price or high temperature readings. Time series analysis comprises methods for analyzing time series data in order to extract meaningful statistics and other characteristics from the data.


Time series data showing CO2 emission by region, source OECD Factbook 2007.

Time series data from complex systems, natural or man-made, often have the properties of random walks. Statistically speaking, properties of such series can have means and variances that vary over time. Time series that show this behavior are called non-stationary series and are by definition unpredictable. A significant correlation between such time series does not necessarily imply a meaningful relationship. The relationship can also be meaningless, i.e. spurious. According to researchers experienced in such analysis, Zhiqiu Lin and Augustine Brannigan, “failure to meet the assumption of stationarity in the process of analyzing time series variables may result in spurious and unreliable statistical inferences.” Plainly stated, if your data are not stationary, normal statistical techniques can lie to you.

That the field of non-stationary time series analysis has attracted a lot of attention from economists should come as no surprise. Econometrics combines economic theory with statistics to analyze and test economic theories and relationships. Because the underpinnings of economic systems are constantly changing, economic statistics gathered over a period of time fall into the category of non-stationary series.

This makes logical sense—the world economy of a decade ago is not the same as the economy today: industries wax and wain, new products are created while old ones fall out of favor, consumer trends change, monetary exchange rates fluctuate, and the balance of trade among nations shifts. Trying to analyze the behavior of any economic system over time is like shooting at a moving target.

To deal with such unpredictability, economists have developed sophisticated computer models based on their best estimates of economic factors and interrelationships. Cointegration and error-correction models have been developed over the past decade as remedies to the problems of “spurious regression” arising from non-stationary series. It should also not be surprising that another field that requires a lot of time series data analysis and relies on large complex computer models for future predictions would also involve non-stationary data. That other field is climate science.

Cointegration is used when two time series are both non-stationary, but there is a stationary linear combination of the variables (or their nth differences). In other words, the difference between them has a constant distribution. This sort of thing happens if there is some sort of error-correction or feedback mechanism linking the two time series. Michal P. Murray published a humorous paper in The American Statistican back in 1994, entitled “A Drunk and Her Dog: An Illustration of Cointegration and Error Correction.” In it Murray states his analogy this way:

The drunk is not the only creature whose behavior follows a random walk. Puppies, too, sander aimlessly when unleashed. Each new scent that crosses the puppy's nose dictates a direction for the pup's next step, with the last scent forgotten as soon as the new one arrives. Thus, the meandering, xi and yi, of both drunks and dogs along the real line can be modeled by the random walk...

But what if the dog belongs to the drunk? The drunk sets out from the bar, about to wander aimlessly in a random-walk fashion. But periodically she intones "Oliver, where are you?", and Oliver interrupts his aimless wandering to bark. He hears her; she hears him. He thinks, "Oh, I can't let her get too far off; she'll lock me out." She thinks, "Oh, I can't let him get too far off; he'll wake me up in the middle of the night with his barking." Each assesses how far away the other is and moves to partially close that gap.

What Murray is describing is a situation where there are two sets of nonstationary time series data, but there is a meaningful relationship between the two. As the drunk and her dog wander their mutual calls serve as an error-correction mechanism that keeps them from drifting apart. This feedback keeps the distribution of the distance between them statistically stationary. Under these circumstances, it is possible to test for the existence of such a relationship.

Significantly, despite the nonstationarity of the paths, one might still say, "If you find her, the dog is unlikely to be very far away." If this is right, then the distance between the two paths is stationary, and the walks of the woman and her dog are said to be cointegrated of order zero...

Notice that cointegration is a probabilistic concept. The dog is not on a leash, which would enforce a fixed distance between the drunk and the dog. The distance between the drunk and the dog is instead a random variable, but a stationary one despite the nonstationarity of the two paths.

The Murray article goes on to define integrated series and what the term integrated of order n means. Those seeking further details should read the article. For our purposes it is sufficient to state that for a set of series to be cointegrated, each member of the set must be integrated of the same order, n. This is the test that Beenstock and Reingewertz applied to climate data in their paper. The crux of their argument is that for CO2 to control global temperature there must exist a statisitcal correlation between their respective time series, for a relationship to exist between series they must be cointegrated, and to be cointegrated they must be integrated of the same order.

According to their investigation, CO2 follows the statistical pattern you’d get if you took a stationary time series and integrated it twice—order I(2). Temperature, however, matches a stationary series integrated only once—order I(1). Note that the quote from Beenstock and Reingewertz above talks about 1st and 2nd differences. This is because, when dealing with discreet data, difference equations are used, not the integral or differential equations found in continuous mathematics.

Bottom line, what this means for CO2 and temperature is that they exhibit two completely different sorts of behavior, behavior that can’t remain correlated for long. The further implication is that any correlations found between CO2 and temperature must be spurious, the result of inappropriate statistics. But their analysis did not stop there, they performed additional tests for more subtle and complex relationships:

Normally, this difference would be sufficient to reject the hypothesis that global temperature is related to the radiative forcing of greenhouse gases, since I(1) and I(2) variables are asymptotically independent. An exception, however, arises when greenhouse gases, global temperature and solar radiation turn out to be polynomially cointegrated. In polynomial cointegration the greenhouse gases that are stationary in second differences must share a common stochastic trend, henceforth the "greenhouse trend", that is stationary in first differences. If this "greenhouse trend" exists and if it is cointegrated with global temperature and solar irradiance, we may conclude that greenhouse gases are polynomially cointegrated with global temperature and solar irradiance.

The result of this further analysis was that “although greenhouse gases share a common stochastic trend, this "greenhouse trend" is not cointegrated with global temperature and solar irradiance.” They go on to perform other tests, including decomposing the causes of global warming using data from NASA GISS. From the decomposition they calculate the contributions of various forcings to global temperature change during the 20th century. Results are reported in the Table 4 from the paper shown below.

Forcing1940-20001880-2000
Solar Irradiance0.170.40
CO20.200.09
CH40.110.03
N2O0.0020.03
Total0.480.54
Temperature Change0.430.54

Table 4: Radiative forcing contributions to the greenhouse effect by solar insolation and different greenhouse gases.

From these data the authors argue that, even though greenhouse gas forcing has made a larger contribution to global warming since 1940 the effect is only temporary. This argument is rather subtle and based on changes in the level of warming, not the level of warming itself. Here is the explanation by Beenstock and Reingewertz:

Between 1880 and 2000 global temperature rose by 0.54 degrees Celsius of which 0.48 occurred since 1940. Equation (2) attributes 0.4 of this to solar irradiance and the balance to greenhouse gas forcings. Table 4 shows, however, that since 1940 greenhouse gas forcing have made a larger contribution to global warming than before, and solar irradiance a smaller one. This creates the misleading impression that the level of greenhouse gas forcings have been the main cause of global warming in the 20th century. However, our results clearly indicate that it is not the level of greenhouse gas forcings that matters, but the change in the level. During 1880-1940 the level of greenhouse gas forcing increased, but the change in the level decreased. This is why Table 4 implies that greenhouse gas forcings reduced global temperature before 1940.

During the second half of the 20th century greenhouse gas forcings accelerated due in particular to increased carbon emissions. Our model predicts that this effect will be temporary unless these forcing continue to accelerate. Since carbon emissions depend on the level of global economic activity, this continued acceleration would unreasonably imply faster economic growth in the 21st century than in the 20th. Our results also imply that cutting carbon emissions will only induce a short-term reduction in global temperature, leaving no long run effect.

In other words, it is not the magnitude of the forcing by CO2 that causes temperature to rise, it is the change in that magnitude that causes temperature to rise. Adding more CO2 to the atmosphere will cause a positive change in the associated forcing, which will cause a temporary increase in temperature. This is a result of climatic feedback that acts as an error-correction to the system.

Based on these results and several other statistical tests reported in the paper, the authors claim that AGW stands refuted. They conclude that “there is no evidence relating global warming in the 20th century to the level of greenhouse gases in the long run.” As I interpret these results, this behavior of the Earth system is only based on data from 1880-2000 and significant change in conditions from those present during that time period could alter the underlying system and its responses. But even with that caveat, this is a stunning conclusion.

Climate Science Revolution

As the ancient Greek philosopher Heraclitus observed, you can not step into the same river twice. By this he meant that a river is constantly changing. The same can be said of both the world economy and Earth's climate system. The way climate regulation works is not a static thing. Can anyone doubt that Earth's climate system during the Cretaceous was different from that in place at the beginning of the Paleocene, or that a different climate balance existed during the last glacial period compared to today? Like Heraclitus' ever changing river, climate is constantly adjusting, finding new balancing points and adapting to change. As temperatures rise and fall new mechanisms and factors come into play: ice cover waxes and wains, precipitation patterns shift, ground cover changes and ocean currents are rearranged. This changing nature implies that climate data are non-stationary and that more sophisticated statistical methods need to be applied to their analysis.

So is it valid to compare economics with climate science, econometrics with climate data analysis? Economic data are generally observational, rather than being derived from controlled experiments. Climate data also mostly falls into the observational category—performing controlled experiments on an entire planet is difficult at best. The individual units in an economy interact with each other in complex ways, as do the myriad of factors involved in Earth's climate system. In either field, observed data tend to reflect complex equilibrium conditions rather than simple behavioral relationships. These similarities suggest that sophisticated techniques developed for analyzing data in one field might be profitably applied to the other.

Of course, hubris stands in the way of easy adoption of skills or techniques from outside of one's own discipline. Plus, the drubbing that climate science has been taking in the media recently has caused the already insular climate science community to become even more distrustful of outsiders. There is also a very wide terminology gap. Both economics and climate science are rife with insider jargon and technical terms, often borrowed from other disciplines though given different meanings.

Consider that, in climate science speak, any temperature variation from some baseline is an “anomaly” while any factor that might exert an influence on the climate is a “forcing.” In economics, “sunk costs” are costs that have been incurred and cannot be reversed, while the “reservation wage” is the lowest wage for which a person will work. The Beenstock and Reingewertz paper on cointegration has been greeted with jeers and charged with being “pure crap” at least partially because of the unfamiliar terminology. One commenter on the WattsUpWithThat.com site went so far as to say:

Where the hell do these guys get off using “nonstationary time series” and “methodology of polynomial cointegration”? Looking through their paper, they say things like “The method of cointegration is designed to test hypotheses with time series data that are non-stationary to the same order, and to avoid the pitfall of spurious regression.” So what. How was it designed? Under what circumstances will this design succeed in modeling reality and how might it fail? And this is supposed to be a Nature paper of general interest? How are they establishing causality where others have failed? There is no discussion nor any proof. They simply assert that they are correct on the strength of tests that they don’t explain.

Ignorance on the behalf of the commenter neither invalidates the methodology nor the results of the study. Of course the main assertion by the authors in the article abstract was bound to touch a nerve: “We show that although greenhouse gas forcings share a common stochastic trend, this trend is empirically independent of the stochastic trend in temperature and solar irradiance. Therefore, greenhouse gas forcings, global temperature and solar irradiance are not polynomially cointegrated, and AGW is refuted.” This may have seemed a reasonable statement to a couple of economists but them's fightin' words to a climate scientist.

It is no wonder that the econometrics camp and the climate change camp are talking past each other. This is unfortunate, because what the cointegration analysis has shown is that the relationship between CO2 and temperature is not a straightforward causal one. There is still room for CO2 to be involved in climate regulation but a claim that CO2 levels directly control temperature has been shown to be statistically invalid. A conscientious scientist in any field would feel obliged to investigate a claim of refutation closely. But sadly, scientists are human and it is human nature to dismiss such charges out of hand, while throwing in a bit of name calling for good measure.

Climate science has reached a crisis, its old methods and habits have proven unequal to the task required of them. The 20th century philosopher of science Thomas Kuhn recognized that old, outmoded majority points of view are not easily changed. Chaos and disorder within a field are necessary for a major change to take place. Kuhn would have identified the current chaos in climate science as signaling an immanent paradigm shift—a radical restructuring of accepted climate science dogma. In essence, a climate science revolution.

When asked how long a period of cooling global temperatures would be necessary for him to reconsider the AGW paradigm, NASA's Gavin Schmidt replied: “Long term trends from the forcing are expected to be around 0.2 - 0.3 deg/decade. Therefore you need to be able to get uncertainties down to well below those values in order to find a clear discrepancy. Judging from the last thirty years, that period is around a decade.” So a decade's reversal of the previously observed warming trend should give global warming supporters pause.

Dr. Phil Jones, former head of CRU, has publicly admitted that in the last 15 years there has been no “statistically significant” warming. Even when judged by its ardent supporters' own standards, anthropogenic global warming is failing. The only thing that can save climate science from itself is a paradigm shift—a revolutionary change in the basic assumptions within its ruling theory. The theory of AGW will not go without a fight, but go it will—Viva La Revolución!

Be safe, enjoy the interglacial and stay skeptical.

Quality Assurance

Doug, just in case it wasn't clear in my last post.

Water vapour (WV) is the same entity as rfH2O (rfH2O = WV).

Best regards, suricat.

Is this a flaw?

I've just read the Beenstock and Reingewertz paper Doug, and there's a massive hole in it. This is a 'good' hole, not a 'bad' one. Water vapour (WV) is missing!

If a full account of all the players in the 'OLR radiative' attractor system aren't taken into the mix, the resultant won't show full cointegration!

Why won't it show full cointegration? Simply because rfH2O also enjoys a share of rf and WV has multiple attractors! WV is also intrinsic to the hydrological cycle, which generates evaporative cooling to any climate not already at saturation levels of relative humidity (RH).

I think the only stable factor in the hydrological cycle/sphere is the propensity of the local domain/topography to force RH into a preference for a regional, and accumulating this, globally preferred level at near surface.

WV can enhance convection by increasing the convective properties of air by a factor of <10°C without a temperature change and its change of phase most often delivers up its heavy 'latent' thermal factor at a higher altitude than the altitude at which it gained it. Thus, the 'hydrosphere' can 'in fill' many of the negative aspects that are missing from a 'radiative' conclusion.

However, if rfH2O isn't included with the mix of rf gasses, the negative value of the hydrological cycle can't be shown, and the rf share of rfH2O becomes apportioned to the other rf gasses WRT temperature.

How do you see this?

Best regards, suricat.

Missing water vapor

I believe that, for this analysis, water vapor was not considered a "forcing" but as part of the natural feed back of the Earth system. Humans do not control the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere in the same, direct way they control carbon dioxide and, through industry and agriculture, the other GHGs used in the study. Furthermore, while there could be some form of correlation between water vapor and CO2, it is pretty clear the water vapor varies in ways independent of CO2.

"Forcing"?

"Forcing"?

No Doug. I concur that "water vapour was not considered a "forcing" but as part of the natural feed back of the Earth system". However, CO2 and other greenhouse gasses are also "part of the natural feed back of the Earth system". The 'forcing' entity is 'outgoing long-wave radiation'! It's the only entity that can cause energy transfer as it 'is' the 'energy' per se in the part of the Earth system under discussion. No greenhouse gas can generate its own energy, only absorb some of the infrared around it and then pass that energy into the local gas molecules by 'converting' the added energy into a kinetic form, thus, a 'microscopic' local temperature increase.

IMO the term 'forcing' was applied to CO2 by the IPCC because people make an observable contribution of the gas. I'm looking at 'the system', 'not' 'the people' (anthropogenic).

The only 'forcing' agent here is 'outgoing long-wave radiation' (OLR). If we need to look at 'converters' of OLR to local kinetic energy (causes of temperature increase), we must include 'all' 'greenhouse gasses' (GHGs) including 'water vapour' (WV). If we leave WV out of the GHG mix a lot more OLR will escape the atmosphere to space without temperature increase in the atmosphere, and more pertinent, GHGs that share a spectral band of OLR with WV shall have more OLR energy to absorb with WV's absence. Whatever, the atmosphere gets colder for a GHG scenario, but hotter for a real world scenario (without WV, no clouds exist and albedo remains high)!

Excluding WV from any analysis of temperature causation is unreal by default and IMHO, void.

A correlation can't be accurate if it excludes some of the relevant factors to be correlated. IMO, the inclusion of WV in this evaluation will, at first sight, show massive heating, but after taking into account the convective and albedo altering properties of WV, will show system stability.

The 'shared attractor status' of WV between the 'radiative system', the 'convective system' and the 'latent system' means that all three systems are affected and need to be addressed in any correlation. Michael Beenstock and Yaniv Reingewertz have only manipulated the statistics that were presented to them, and a fine job they made of them, but they were not presented with all the data for their analysis. That's unfair!

Best regards, suricat.

A response from Professor Beenstock

We refer to Liu & Rodriguez (2005) in our paper. My comments are:

1. L&R use the polynomial cointegration methodology developed by Johansen. There is a conceptual problem with this methodology in that it assumes unreasonably that there can be an independent time trend in rfCO2. This is mentioned in our paper.

2. Their method assumes that solar irradiance may be affected by global temperature. They forgot to exogenize the sun, as we mention.

3. L&R also report results that reject AGW. Indeed, most of their results reject AGW. However, they only emphasize the one result in which AGW is not rejected! Maybe they wanted to be politically correct.

Thank you for your interest.
Michael Beenstock

[This reply was received via email in response to my enquiry. Thanks to Dr. Beenstock for taking the time to respond.]

That's great news from the

That's great news from the economists. Maybe those techniques, applied to their own data, will finally allow them to forecast something useful. Like the next big downturn or jump in the economy. The ones that always catch them by surprise.

And now we can ignore the loss of ice on 7 continents and the 29,000 data series of organisms showing responses adapting to a warming world? Indeed. Those critters obviously haven't heard of polynomial cointegration. . .

That's right

The economists' forecasting models are no more accurate than the climate scientists' models. There is a difference between forecasting/prediction and data analysis. As for the rest, this is an interglacial, a time when ice is supposed to melt. And quite frankly, as the story of the Golden Toad shows, science has only the foggiest idea what organisms are responding to. I do so love the aggressively ignorant.

The plot thickens

It seems that Beenstock and Reingewertz are not the first to publish (sort of) a paper using cointegration techniques to analyze the link between CO2 levels and temperature change. Back in 2005, Hui Liu and Gabriel Rodríguez published a paper entitled "Human activities and global warming: a cointegration analysis," published in: Environmental Modeling & Software 20 (2005): pp. 761-773. They came up with a significantly different set of conclusions than Beenstock and Reingewertz. Here is the abstract:

Using econometric tools for selecting I(1) and I(2) trends, we found the existence of static long-run steady-state and dynamic long-run steady-state relations between temperature and radiative forcing of solar irradiance and a set of three greenhouse gases series. Estimates of the adjustment coefficients indicate that temperature series is error correcting around 5-65% of the disequilibria each year, depending on the type of long-run relation. The estimates of the I(1) and I(2) trends indicate that they are driven by linear combinations of the three greenhouse gases and their loadings indicate strong impact on the temperature series. The equilibrium temperature change for a doubling of carbon dioxide is between 2.15 and 3.4 C, which is in agreement with past literature and the report of the IPCC in 2001 using 15 different general circulation models.

In other words they found that the GHGs are polynomially cointegrated with global temperature, the opposite of what B&R found. The entire paper is available on-line as a PDF.

I have sent requests for more information to both Professor Beenstock and Dr. Rodríguez.

Watch out

I haven't read the paper, but I notice a lot of Kaufmann references.

Note that BR write:

"The fact that greenhouse gases are I(2) variables has been completely overlooked by some who by default treated them as I(1) variables.i Others noticed that they are I(2) variables, but inappropriately used standard cointegration tests instead of polynomial cointegration tests.v Still others used polynomial cointegration tests designed for situations where all, instead of just some of the variables are I(2),vi and some ignore the issue altogetherxi,xii."

Take a look at the references ;)

http://economics.huji.ac.il/facultye/beenstock/Nature_Paper091209.pdf

Hi Doug, You got it! really

Hi Doug,

You got it! really :)

..except for the part where you imply that cointegration requires large computer models; in fact, it requires a couple of matrix inversions/multiplications/transposures etc. No biggie ;), econometrics is nothing more than mathematical statistics packed in matrices (i.e. data). Just add the Central Limit Theorem, and you're set to go :)

I do implore you to come to this thread: http://ourchangingclimate.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/global-average-temper...

Try to read it all, skip the obvious trolls (that will save you a couple of hours). The thread was first noted by Bishop Hill:

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2010/3/17/statistical-death-match...

...and then by Tom Fuller:

http://www.examiner.com/x-9111-Environmental-Policy-Examiner~y2010m3d24-...

..

Basic argument: OLS trend estimation assumes trend stationarity, trend stationarity is violated (clear presence of a unit root in the process, i.e. series is I(1)), ergo deterministic OLS trend estimation (on any interval) = nonsense (non-science).

Extensive test results and monte carlo analyses posted. Input welcomed.

Now observe:

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=ols+trend+global-mean+temperat...

..so, come over :)

Best, VS

P.S. When estimating a test-based stochastic trend model (i.e. ARIMA(3,1,0), see diagnostics in thread), instead of the formally shown to be misspecified deterministic OLS trend model, we find a statistically significant 'drift' parameter (i.e. constant, i.e. expected increase per year): 0.006186 (p-value: 0.1302)

Furthermore, if we drop the constant (i.e. drift) and reestimate the ARIMA(3,1,0) process, all GISS realizations fall within 95% forecasting confidence interval, when parameters are estimated on the series 1881-1935, and projected from 1885-2008 ;)

Here: http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6674/deterministicvsstochast.gif

Sorry to confuse you

@VS

Thanks for the kind words and all of the additional information and pointers. When I said “To deal with such unpredictability, economists have developed sophisticated computer models based on their best estimates of economic factors and interrelationships,” I was referring to the field of economics in general, not econometrics or cointegration specifically. Economists do in fact construct complex models of economic systems (stochastic, qualitative and otherwise), though nothing truly similar to or on the scale of those GCM monstrosities. I can see how the proximity of the next statement might cause some confusion, I should have been clearer. The point I was trying to make is that economics and climate science face similar problems, particularly with respect to data analysis.

By the way, your long post here is a wonderful comparison of phenomenological models vs. statistical models. Great information clearly presented.

Publishing the paper

Michael Beenstock and Yaniv Reingewertz should publish their paper in an econometrics journal to get their statistical methods intensely reviewed by other econometricians (is that a real word?). If the paper passes that test, then some climate science journal should review and publish the paper.

Steve Koch

Paradigm or diciplinary matrix?

It would appear that Climatology is a sub-field of physical geography. Physical Geography like Geology is an Earth Science. In Kuhn's terms geology and physical geography are part of the same general disciplinary matrix. He has also called this a paradigm. Personally I like term matrix better as I believe it far more descriptive of what happens in any form of earth science research. I also feel Kuhn's descriptions or narrative about how science progresses within the paradigm is perhaps better suited to Chemistry and Physics then the life or earth sciences. Since the earth sciences are so dependent on others, the caveats of falsification of Popper better suited this earth science matrix. I also know that some, mostly physicists, believe all can be reduced to physics. A topic I think best left to others since metaphysics is a part of Kuhn's matrix and not of mine.

I find it refreshing that others with other valuable ideas are getting into the act.

Dennis Nikols

A million monkeys writing code

"They go on to perform other tests, including decomposing the causes of global warming using data from NASA GISS."

Garbage in is Garbage out.

The drunk and his dog is a good analogy of Jim Hansen and his global warming religion.

The NASA GISS data is a case of the dog ate the homework- the raw data is missing and we are left with Jim Hansen heroic tea readings efforts.

And due to the global warming crazies, I must now include the disclaimer that this does not prove that there was no global warming in the 20th Century. And all it really provide evidence of is that when you have fanatics being the directors of NASA centers that this may cause problems.

One could say that it is ironic that Jim Hansen's "unconscious manipulation of data" has seemed to cause it to appear that CO2 is proven not to be a significant factor in global warming- if not for the fact that Jim Hansen has claimed that CH3 is actually the most significant and dangerous greenhouse gas and that CO2 is a rather minor factor in comparison. But due to complications in the lack of religious acceptance [that farts spell our doom] he is currently on the CO2 bandwagon. So perhaps he merely has been unconsciously sabotaging the CO2 cause for sake of his first true love- and there is nothing ironic about that.

Paradigm Shift

Paradigm Shift

I think you're right here Doug. As an engineer, I can never understand why climate science 'throws away' most of the temperature signal and also works with an average global temperature that doesn't have anything like enough resolution within the station network nodes to give a realistic average temperature to an area. Insufficient baud rate and scattered pixel appearance, respectively, just about says it all.

I was always of the understanding that AGW theory encompasses events where diurnal solar forcing would be reflected as an unaltered warming rate from insolation, but with OLR restricted, the night time cooling rate (given cloud change parameters) would reduce. We'd need 5-10 minute daily temperature readings with a realistic clear sky comparison standard to see this phenomenon and I've not seen any data of the like, or any movement towards data collation in this manner. Instead, all I've seen is a continual march of average temperatures, carbon dioxide content, ocean heat content, etc.

Back to predictive econometrics. What cointegration does show, in engineering terms, is the relationship of the data to a system attractor. However, from there, the system attractor really needs to be identified. Once the attractor is identified there will be other data relationships that are affected by that attractor. The climate system has many attractors and the greater the understanding of climate subsystem attractors that are known, the greater our understanding of climate per se.

I know what you mean by language terminology. I tried to learn 'climate speak' because people didn't know what I was talking about. Though, I don't see a paradigm shift taking place without a swift kick up the !"£$%^&*. :)

Best regards, suricat.